WTP 2008-03-06

WTP Development Status Meeting 2008-03-06

Attendees

Project Leads
Konstantin	Y
Tim	Y
Nitin	Y
Kathy	N
Chuck	N
Naci	N
Raghu	Y
Neil	Y
David	Y
Helen	Y
Philippe	N

Committers
Bob	Y
Carl	Y
Dave	Y
Phil	Y
Kaloyan	Y
Larry	Y
Amy	N
Kate	N
Angel	N
Rob	N
Brad	Y
Valentin	Y

Friends
Nick	Y

Announcements And Reports

Europa Simultaneous Release on Friday, 2/29!

Focus on Backlog and Quality metrics (Neil)

Current Focus Item

Untargeted bugs with patches attached opened before January 1st, 2008 (Last week - 44; Currently ~ 24)

Options are

Target bug for a release or "future"
Mark as Invalid or Wont Fix

Minutes: Note sent to Kate Price (Documentation) (current leader at 6 ... though seveal 5s too)

Upcoming Focus Item

Past Focus Items

Untargeted Enhancements opened before January 1st, 2007 (Last week - 62; Currently ~ 58)

Before July 1st, 2007 - 109
Options are

Invalid - Enhancement does not fit with the scope of the project or is already implemented.
helpwanted keyword - This is a valid request, but due to committer resources and other priorities, outside help will be needed to make this happen.
Future - I would use this in conjunction with the helpwanted keyword. I use this for legitimate requests that are important but will not make any planned release, but likely will make a future release.

Untargeted severity "Major" and higher bugs opened before January 1st, 2007 (Last week - 2; Currently ~ 0)

Before July 1st, 2007 - 21

Where did they all go?

Focus on Requirements Planning (Raghu)

Review and Update the WTP 3.0 Plan by April 7

Projects with no committed items: none

Please update status page

Please review untriaged enhancement requests

Untriaged Enhancement Requests ()

Plan items in Bugzilla ()

Reminder: Any feature work that slips past M6 needs PMC review, and needs to be explicitly listed on ramp down page. (Before the end of M6!)

David will update docs and send reminder note.

Document updated to clarify policy. See WTP 3.0 Ramp down Plan for Ganymede

Post WTP 2.0.2

Currently 3 known "bad bugs" (critical, major, hotbugs) to be included in an offical post 202 patch

220297

219889

219627

The PMC recommends we produce official patches, regression test, and release those to update site

Minutes:

Carl: timeline for these? patches

David: want to do it before eclipsecon, possibly next week

Neil: sooner the better

David: Process in place by mid next week, and spin the build next week, place on an internal site and ask everyone for smoketest

David: signed jars in 202, adopters okay with this?

Yes

RC3 build is an identical build without singed jars, will make the RC3 build visible if anyone is affected by this

WTP 3.0 M6

our +2 date: Monday, April 7 2008
Final Code released by March 28th

Plan 02/18 - 02/22

Development 02/25 - 03/28

Test 03/31 - 04/04

Builds

Build Breakages Board

3.0 Smoketest results

Bug Lists

3.0 Invalid Targeted Bugs (~3)

3.0 M6 Targeted Bugzilla Enhancements (~31)

All Remaining 3.0 Targeted Enhancements (~162)

3.0 M6 Remaining Targeted Bugs (~153)

3.0 M6 Hot Bug Requests (~0)

3.0 M6 Hot Bugs (~0)

3.0 M6 Blockers/Criticals (~1)

3.0 M6 JST, WST, JSF Bugs Fixed (~80)

3.0 M6 JPT Dali Bugs Fixed (~29)

3.0 Untargeted Blockers/Criticals (~1)

3.0 Resolved, Unverified Blockers/Criticals (~26) By Assignee

Minutes:

smoketest can start with current avalable build, JPT smoketest will wait for the new build to run, Helen will issue smoketest now

Critical bugs

Neil220670 -> JPA model, may have a similar problem in the new model, could be done there

Nitin: 221610 -> reduced the possibility of it

Untargetted criticals

212727 -> Tim: raised to critical by reporter 2 days ago, looks like a minor enhancement, Helen will send a note to Naci

Performance Focus (Kaloyan)

Some (possible) progress on debugging the problem with running the tests. Seems related to org.eclipse.test.performance

We'll begin having weekly performance section to review tests and test results.

Kaloyan: We have identified that changes made in bug 201469 could be a potential reason for the Derby error:

ERROR 42Y07: Schema 'GUEST' does not exist

The changes in the bug are about improving performance, but they also affect the org.eclipse.test.internal.performance.db.DB class and if we compare between revisions 1.68 and 1.70 we could see that the changes deal with some user and password settings. Now it is not clear what should be changed in the WTP perf tests setup to comply with this change. May be setting some user and password for Derby?!

API Tools/Scans

Current ones will be ending soon. Kaloyan volunteered to explore the new Platform API tools, to make recommendations to WTP or build process.

Kaloyan: I have started exploring and evaluating the Api Tooling project. It is planned to become part of Eclipse 3.4 by the end of M6. Now it is available only by checking it out from CVS.

Project overview: http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDE_UI_Incubator_ApiTools

The Api Tooling supports profiles. I need to check if this can correspond to our adopter usage reports.

There are also Batch mode tools: Binary Compatibility Reporting and API Usage Reporting, but I am still in progress to find out how to run them.

Other business?

WTP API Policy - Tim D

Any questions? Objections?

No objections ... committers reminded to stay familiar with it, as it documents "permissible changes" and other processes.

Do we still need component.xml files? (from the platform)

None known.

Are there volunteers to explore (and make recommendations on) the Platforms new API tools?

Kaloyan will look into them.

David: we need to change how we generate our javadoc in the build -- project by project, or component by component.

Tim has volunteered to do something for the server project, and recommend to others (might check with Nick Bolt on this).

We will be changing the way we generate source features/plugins

See bug 132094 for details, implications, and links to more info.

Design meetings ... are they happening?

JSF-SSE-Validation? (Nitin will follow up).

JSDT-Facets? (Brad thought would still be worth while, perhaps walk through of current design/behavior).

Introductions: Philippe introduced himself (as new lead of ATF Project). Gave brief description of current dependencies (core, server, sse) and plans related to WTP (esp. WYSIWYG editor).

Brief discussion of broken link on WTP page ... turned out to be a bad URL in our project metadata.

And mentioned Helen will be tracking down other broken links :)

Teams Status and Focus for Coming Week

Source Editing

Ongoing triaging of incoming bug reports
Working on updating bug backlogs
Working on 3.0 requirement for more configurable XML and HTML formatting (95091,194698)

Server Tools

Web Services/WSDL

Ongoing triage of incoming and existing bugs/RFEs.
Fixing bugs and implementing RFEs.
Planning for M6.

Java EE

Dali JPT

JPT 2.0
- New model/UI code is in last weeks I-Build
- Working on:
  - Persistence.xml editor
  - Java to JPA project conversion
  - EclipseLink support

JSF

Planning for M3
Property Editor prototype
JSPX support investigation
XHTML support investigation

releng

will soon remove wst common ui properties. See bug 131862.

will soon start signing all jars. Teams will have to be on the look out for performance problems, in M6. If any, it would effect those cases where custom class loaders are used, as that might result in repeated class

verification.

References

Eclipse 3.4 Project Plan for the Ganymede Simultaneous Release. WTP Performance Tests Tweaking the Access Rules for WTP

Branching Strategy

Please review and comment on the WTP How to: Branching Policy and Practices guide.

In general, the minimum is if you branch a plug-in to branch all the plug-ins in the corresponding map file. It is fine to branch everything if you choose as well. We may need to reorganize map files slightly and we can investigate that on a case by case basis. This is intended to be a living document and open to evolutions and improvements.

Instructions for tagging existing and new WTP wiki pages can be found at WTP's Category page; remember, we can create subcategories as well
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