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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 31-Oct-2006
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Tuesday Oct 31, 2006 at 8.00am San Francisco / 10.00am Rochester / 11.00am Toronto / 4.00pm London / 5.00pm Salzburg |
Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_sharf, and uwe.stieber.
MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber; Michael Scharf (absent), Ted Williams (absent)
- Tradescape - Lothar Werzinger
Agenda
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
- Latest News
- Martin -- RSE 1.0 Testing round 3; bugfixes; releasing RC3; about files still pending!
- DaveD -- bugfixing, verification; some lo-pri filter bugs still pending
- DaveM -- testing & verification
- Kushal -- testing & verification
- Javier -- bug verification, FTP testing
- Ted -- n/a (jury duty)
- Uwe -- Windriver stuff
- Michael --n/a
- Other News --
- Top Priorities this week:
- #1 - Hi-priority bugfixing - please observe the priorities.
- #2 - Being responsive
- Looking back on RSE 1.0 Testing round 3
- committers can set to CLOSED right away instead of setting VERIFIED
- Filter questions by LotharW
- Programmatically use the remote file selection dialog to restrict it to some filter
- DaveM: Changing the root of the remote systems tree in the dialog should be possible
- DaveM: would like a dialog that's not tree-based but table-based, with a predefined filter
- Upcoming Work
- Endgame Plan
- Automatic nightly I-builds until the release
- Martin to update the mapfiles for now, will review checkins and release
- Continue fixing bugs: P1,P2 first - then choose the P3 ones you like best, or are easy / riskless to fix
- Everybody feel free to promote P3 bugs they feel important into P2 bugs such that they get visible to others
- Everybody feel free to make checkins since we'll review anyway
- Lothar can do bug Verification
- Everybody: Also file non-reproducable bugs, use Bugzilla for tracking
- New bugs: REVIEW Assigned to Inbox, Status NEW
- Open bugs: P1, P2 bugs, API bugs, Open with Patch,
- Our biggest problems right now
- Drag&Drop
- Upload's OK, download not -- COM translates all dnd into Strings, so it needs to be a local file; we'd need to download on drag already
- Navigator should work, Project Explorer tbd
- Split up the "monster" dnd bugreport into separate ones for the separate issues
- dnd won't be supported on MacOS; should be addressed fairly quickly after 1.0; seems to be a problem with dragStart
- Events/Updates/Refresh/Treeview
- After copy&paste, remote directory is collapsed
- Might be just a little annoyance, but it leads users to lose confidence!
- Drag&Drop
- Endgame Plan
- Communications
- API changes: we'll not introduce any more api changes for 1.0
- Lothar confirms that provisional API is fine for 1.0
- Dont want lots of deprecatedes in 2.0 --> it will be fine to have incompatible API changes in 2.0
- FTP dnd: copy vs. move
- API needs to be observed, FTPFileService.copy() should raise an exception
- Extend Uwe's commit rights to RSE?
- Dave's & Kushal OK with extending, will publicly vote
- Shall we get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif ?
- Shall we get rid of commented out source code ?
- too late for 1.0 but want to get rid of both soon after
- API changes: we'll not introduce any more api changes for 1.0
- Change Requests
- RSE 2.0 Planning - First tasks after 1.0 is completed:
- Start IBM and EMO review process for User Actions and Import/Export (DaveD)
- Start creating Unit Tests, Testing feature (DaveD, Uwe)
- Continue bug fixing on HEAD (All)
- Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review all docs
- Finalize the 2.0 Project Plan
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Martin - public holidays Nov 1
- US Thanksgiving - End of November
- Kushal - Business trip Nov 9 and 10
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
- DSDP/TM/Code_Ownership
- Can we move next weeks meeting 1 hour earlier in order to accomodate the Orbit call?
- EclipseCon 2007 coming in March. Call for Papers has been issued. Martin and DaveM will submit proposal for 2 hour tutorial.
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Edit Code Ownership. Hi-Pri bugs. New bug for moving DTD.
- DaveM - Hi-pri bugs
- Kushal - Hi-pri bugs; Encoding bugs?
- Martin - Create empty project plan; TM FAQ on the Wiki; Hi-pri bugs;
- Javier - FTP bugs; Hook up with Scott Lewis once SD is committed and works
- Ted - Terminalview; Document the build process