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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 26-Jun-2007
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Tuesday Jun 26, 2007 at 1500 UTC |
| Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Invited Attendees
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Xuan Chen, (Kevin Doyle n/a), (Kushal Munir n/a)
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Jun-2007
News & Review Action Items
| Martin | 0% | 100% | |
| DaveD | 90% | some doc fixes, but things went fairly smoothly | 90% |
| DaveM | 0% | 30% | |
| Javier | 30% | 30% | |
| Uwe | 5% | - | 5% |
| Michael | 10% | 1 bugfix for terminal | 10% |
Plan for the TM Future
- Please review and edit TM Future Planning together with your Requirements / Product Management folk
- A TM Project Meeting is planned for SEPTEMBER 19th and 20th in Chicago, together with the Members Meeting.
Ramp Down Plan
- TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa, based on Europa Simultaneous Release#Milestones and Release Candidates
- EUROPA -- Jun 29 -- No more automatic builds (only on request) - Wednesday is the absolute final day
- Testing: Please use RSE recent I-builds yourselves in daily work
Open Work for 2.0
- Reminder: All our API is still declared "provisional". Is this ok for everyone?
- All-committer-review required from now on
- Severity Major Bugs:
- 193380 Deleting Connection Refresh's Entire Remote Systems View - not major, assigned 2.0.1
- 193858 RSE folder tree problem - tempfiles do not take connection name or user id on remote side into account; similar to tempfiles structure does not support tunnelling - AI DaveM check whether remoteMountPathMappers extension point can be used to change the mapping scheme; for the future, probably subsystems should contribute some means of qualification
- 187301 (Martin) Telnet does not allow multiple shells
- Martin wants to apply the (cleaned-up) patch, will affect telnet only
- Other known bugs:
- 192610 (Javier) Create a link to an RSE folder makes eclipse freeze
- Will likely require a note of caution on using EFS remote projects.
- Javier could reproduce (with FTP); blocked as long as files were being retrieved from remote server (could be hundreds of files); refreshed file status of hundreds of files (or did it retrieve the files to do some parsing?) - Martin would like to know why it's running in foreground; DaveD: both JDT and CDT are not particularly good at being EFS clients
- AI Javier: Check FTP Log: Does it download files or just check timestamp? Does it check the same files again and again or always different ones? Also, try a thread dump and attach it to the bug, so we can see who ran it in the UI thread.
- Thread Dump Utility:
- On UNIX, do kill -SIGQUIT in order to get a thread dump on the console
- On Windows, use AdaptJ Java StackTrace (click on "Launch StackTrace" on the web page; it's free when launched from the Web. Attach to the program. In the stacktrace, you can copy&paste, or save the trace.
- Several Doc issues opened (broken links) - affect doc plugin only; AI DaveD
- 192610 (Javier) Create a link to an RSE folder makes eclipse freeze
- DStore: Change the default daemon port for 2.0, since the protocol is not compatible? - Would allow multiple dstore daemons for multiple different versions run in parallel on one host
- DaveM: IBM internally uses different daemon ports for different protocol versions right now; different IBM products have different ways of dealing with this, e.g. z/OS has its own daemon; TPF uses rexec; for testing, just pick a port; in the past, administrators just knew what's going on; DaveM slightly in favor of changing the port number but not seen as critical since people typically specifiy their own ports; DaveD thinks it would be a good idea for convenience (increment 4035 to 4036)
- IANA Port Numbers: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers search for Unassigned, e.g. 4370 Unassigned
- AI Martin file bug for DaveM
- DaveM: IBM internally uses different daemon ports for different protocol versions right now; different IBM products have different ways of dealing with this, e.g. z/OS has its own daemon; TPF uses rexec; for testing, just pick a port; in the past, administrators just knew what's going on; DaveM slightly in favor of changing the port number but not seen as critical since people typically specifiy their own ports; DaveD thinks it would be a good idea for convenience (increment 4035 to 4036)
- New & Noteworthy - AI Martin create, others fill in
- Release Notes
- These will live in the www-tm-development project. Please fill in!
Work post 2.0
- Javadoc Reviews: @since tag for new API, missing @param tags, ... better don't change since these force rebuild of many plugins
- Currently feels like too many bugs are assigned 2.0.1 -- but we'll decide that after 2.0 is released
- Kushal some of your assigned are 2.0.1 -- will you be able to work on those?
- 2.0.1 work can be done in branches - e.g. "temp201_dwd"? Merge immediately after 2.0 declared. Caution: 2.0.1 must be binary compatible with 2.0.0. Ensure that you have read the Eclipse API Guidelines again to understand what the restrictions are.
- Platform has branched 3.3.1 already, and releases 3.3 from the branch
- Other work
- Discouraged Access Warnings: switch off for dstore by using x-friend in Manifest?
- subsystems.files.dstore --> dstore.extra: DomainNotifier.addDomainListener(), DomainNotifier.removeDomainListener() - DaveM: This is a dstore-specific thing and should not be public API
- DaveD: Friend may be the right thing in many cases; but we might be hiding some stuff that should be API, so we should treat these case by case
- Should look at the list of x-friend declarations and check if these still hold
- Filed bug #194475 to track these
- Kushal: 174789 Property pages added to Wizard automatically: AI Kushal investigate (will likely be taken by DaveD - Kushal to leave the team?)
- Martin: 186315 EFS problematic URIs - would love to see those fixed, supposedly affect efs plugin only
- Releng scripts: won't consume Commons Net officially via Orbit for now
- Discouraged Access Warnings: switch off for dstore by using x-friend in Manifest?
- Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority
Vacation, Away
- DaveM, DaveD taking a couple weeks in August
- Javier ooo last two weeks in August
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everybody: Comment / Grant Review on 194442 default dstore daemon port, 187301 telnet multiple shells
- DaveD: Doc bugs (broken links)
- DaveM: Check whether mountPathMappers can workaround 193858, comment on the bug about reason and possible workarounds; 194442 change dstore daemon default port
- Kushal:
- Martin: 187301 telnet; create new¬ewothy, release notes
- Javier: Investigate 192610 as mentioned during the meeting, add comments on the bug
- Michael: