DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 24-Apr-2007

Meeting Title:	TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time:	Tuesday Apr 24, 2007 at 1500 UTC
Dial-in:	International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 #

MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.

Attendees

• IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, (Kushal Munir n/a), Kevin Doyle, Sanjayan Eladchumanasamy
• Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, (Michael Scharf n/a), (Ted Williams n/a)

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Notes

• Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 17-Apr-2007

News & Review Action Items

Martin	100%	[done] Add Import/Export and UDA to I-builds; updated website; moved events to core;	100%
DaveD	70%	Persistence Improvements; Converting Translation test cases and filing bugs	100%
DaveM	30%	Bugfixes; [done] Fixed Import/Export	40%
Kushal	(?)	BIDI Encodings	(?)
Javier	50%	FTP Parser Extension Point - Problems persisting Property Set	50%
Ted	0%	-	0%
Uwe	5%	-	5%
Michael	10%		10%

Time Plan and Deadlines toward M7

• Plan towards M7 - goals and deadlines for I-builds
  • I20070426 -- Major breaking API changes (Martin: getSystemType(), getInstance(); UI/Non-UI; Persistence)
  • I20070503 -- Minor API changes - Final Feature Additions - Feature Freeze (Terminal integration; FTP Parser)
  • I20070510 -- Stabilization, start TM 2.0 M7 Testing on May 14th
  • I20070516 -- TM 2.0M7 (17th is a public holiday in Austria!)

Bugs and open work to be discussed

• Current Priorities
  • Priority #1: Finish API Changes
    • Javier: FTP parallel download, allowing to register directory listing parser by extension point
      • Please check in changes even if they are partial, so they are part of refactoring
    • DaveD: Persistence (for UDA); UI/Non-UI
      • Persistence Provider: try to make the configurable one independent of IResource - and probably wrap it in another one that does know the WorkspaceRoot and thus depends on IResource
    • bug 182221: Should IRemoteFileSubSystem handle exceptions (by showing dialogs)? What about ISubSystem in general?
      • Add API to register a notifier or errorhandler with the Subsystem? One option in the notifier could be to ignore exceptions
      • Uwe: Eclipse 3.3 unified the concept of the StatusHandlers (in org.eclipse.ui) -- throwing CoreException with IStatus
      • DaveM, DaveD are in favor of getting exceptions thrown, but are worried about the amount of code to change
      • Martin: Changing the method signature to throw SystemMessageException should make the compiler show problematic places
      • DaveD: We have utility methods (in the UI) for handling SystemMessageException
      • Future: SystemMessageException could wrap IStatus at some point, bringing us closer to Eclipse
      • DaveM: Would adapters (like getChildren()) just pass on exceptions as well? Where do we want to decide to handle the exception
      • Decision: Pragmatically, start converting simple methods in IRemoteFileSubSystem; but not convert ones that look too difficult - bring it up again next week
  • Priority #2: Import/Export and User Actions
    • DaveM: Import/Export should be complete
    • AI DaveD, Kushal persistence with User Actions; Dave working on API prerequisites now;
  • Priority #3: Bugs
    • Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority
    • Encoding Issues: Kushal single encoding control for all subsystems?
    • BIDI bugs: Will we adopt ICU4J? (Note according to RCP FAQ, ICU4J is required by org.eclipse.help and thus part of the core RCP already - though this may be changed (bug 183761).
      • ICU4J is part of the Platform already; we should start using it; can defer the changes to later since no API change, try to keep it in UI only
      • AI DaveD to follow up on the concrete bug 183631 and fix it, to get experience with ICU4J
    • Who wants to commit patches from Kevin -- update the DSDP/TM/Code Ownership page
    • EFS: Copy(), Move(); Open Remote Project on Startup: Get rid of IResource dependencies where possible; minimal plugin activations; UI/Non-UI
    • 182454 - what is the meaning of ISystemViewElementAdapter.getAbsoluteName()

• General Guidelines
  • Breaking API OK this week, but
    • Avoid breaking API changes if possible afterwards (keep delegate methods, use deprecation)
  • Kevin, Sanjayan currently doing Vista testing; some more internal RSE stuff
    • DaveM talking to them beginning of May about coding
    • Sanyaan won't be with us for too much longer, but somebody else may be around
    • Martin sending out the keyword for marking "junior bugs"

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• DaveD: Translation Testcases; Persistence Provider without IResource; Get started on ICU4J with bug 183631; User Actions
• DaveM: Bugs
• Kushal: BIDI bugs and Encodings
• Martin: API cleanups; Testing Stats; Refresh improvements; Integrating Terminal with RSE
• Javier: FTP parallel download, registering FTP Parser by extension point

Next Meeting

• May 1st is a public holiday in Austria --> Moving to May 2nd, before the Monthly TM Meeting
• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 2-May-2007 at 1500 UTC
• Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 2-May-2007 at 9am PST / 1600 UTC