DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 22-May-2007

Meeting Title:	TM Committer Phone Meeting
Date & Time:	Tuesday May 22, 2007 at 1500 UTC
Dial-in:	International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 #

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Attendees

• IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir, Kevin Doyle
• Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
• Wind River - Martin Oberhuber

This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).

Notes

• Last meeting: DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 15-May-2007

News & Review Action Items

Martin	100%	RSE bugs (see bugzilla), releaseing M7	100%
DaveD	80%	Persistence in metadata, Translations, Mnemonics	80%
DaveM	50%	Bugfixes	50%
Kushal	40%	BIDI Encodings	40%
Javier	30%	FTP Parser Extension Point	30%
Ted	0%	-	0%
Uwe	5%	-	5%
Michael	10%	Terminal API cleanup, plus small fixes; performance improvements	10%

Plan for the TM Future

Beginning of next week, the Europa Release Review slides are due. I'd like to have a rough idea where we are heading. It's also important to know when deciding what bugs can be deferred to later. Here is an outline as a discussion start: See also TM Future Planning

• TM 2.0.1 with Europa (in autumn) or slightly earlier
  • Wind River might need 2.0.1 slightly before Europa SR1;
  • DaveD taking off 2 weeks in August (7th-20th) and large part (end of) September, heading to Prague
  • Work on unittests, isv docs over the summer in HEAD
  • Fork off from mainline in autumn; if we have any large things for 3.0 and want to start before 2.0.1 might do that in a branch; but having the branch this or that way is not a big deal
  • User actions: consider replacing it entirely by command framework
• Will the next TM release (Ganymade coordinated release) be TM 2.1 or TM 3.0?
  • We'd probably need 3.0 for further UI/Non-UI, API Polish, finalizing terminal API
  • Doing 2.1 might be possible but harder than going for 3.0 right away; Finishing the UI/Non-UI refactoring is essential to complete for the next release
    • TM 3.0 probably not a problem at IBM
    • Javier comfortable with what RSE looks like at the moment
    • Better going for 3.0 since not yet happy with API
  • We could shoot for a 3.0 but strive to keep API changes small and potentially have a compatibility plugin
  • Integrate in next release - strong should:
    • WebDAV, Team Sync (minimal data transfer), Wicked Shell, JArchive (through RSE extension point)
  • Add in next release:
    • User actions (probably replace by Command framework), Launch Actions, VLM Lab Manager, IPxAct data, Connection Groups
    • DaveM: tings existing with IBM already: Remote Java Debug, Remote Jar Export (need legal review); export to multiple targets;
    • Contribute IBM "External Tools" implementation (very interesting!) - potentially consolidate into single User Actions framework
  • Potentially move to Platform + 0 level --> move CDT Launcher to CDT Project

Ramp Down Plan

• TM 2.0 Ramp down Plan for Europa, based on Europa Simultaneous Release#Milestones and Release Candidates
  • RC1 -- Fri May 25 (5 work days) -- May 30: Release Review Slide Decks due
  • RC2 -- Tue Jun 5 (6 work days)
  • RC3 -- Thu Jun 14 (7 work days; Martin vacation 12-Jun til 21-Jun!)
  • RC4 -- Thu Jun 21 (5 work days)
  • EUROPA -- Jun 29
• 1-committer-review recommended for RC1, required afterwards.
• If there are any risky fixes, make them as early as possible, less risky fixes later
• Reviewing assigned bugs regarding priority and potential to defer past 2.0: Individual committers, DaveD+Martin, or Martin alone?
  • Have a review phase on Friday; Kushal reviewing his; fields to change are "Priority" and "Target Milestone"
  • Have each committer do a first pass on his own assigned bugs; DaveD and Martin go through the list again on Monday.
• Avoid breaking API changes from now on (though we can still break API if absolutely necessary)

Bugs and open work to be discussed

• Current Priorities: Fix bugs by Priority
  • Javier: Some FTP related bugs; Happy to help out with other stuff; User docs and ISV docs for Discovery? Javier fine with doing it in RC2/RC3; Martin help out with releng aspects.
  • DaveD: Translation / Menmonics stuff, 187647 Persistence in Metadata - dont see problems but needs fairly thorough testing
    • 153632 incorrect filterpool for dstore - are we really converging to a single filter pool?
  • DaveM: Refresh related bugs; single filter pool? - DaveM does want to get to it this week: coordinate with DaveD since some issues might come up in the Persistence area
  • Martin: Need to bring Releng scripts up to latest for Orbit; Review and release Telnet fixes; 172650 Capabilities; 176461 expand-to-level; 186315 EFS problematic URIs;
    • 170910 Integrate Terminalview -- OK to defer past 2.0? Add in 2.0.1?
      • Kushal: make it available as experimental download?
      • DaveM: make it in two pathes (separate subsystem first, integrate into commandview later)?
      • IBM has a very loose terminal integration: select host, "Open Terminal" opens a separate terminal view; that would give us some kind of integration. But for TM Terminal, there are no translations, no clearance etc.
      • Decision: Better invest time into 2.0 bugfixes, and adding the Terminal in an early 3.0 milestone.
    • Would like to Rename org.eclipse.rse.eclipse.filesystem to org.eclipse.rse.efs -- OK?
      • DaveD: Files in there need to be retargeted - should not be a big problem
    • API: Would like to add some "throws" clauses to ISystemRegistry and others to ensure that nobody expects it to show messages (necessary when it is to go into non-UI in the future) -- OK?
      • Kushal: Better make API change now rather than later
    • EFS: Copy(), Move(); minimal plugin activations; UI/Non-UI
  • Kushal: Single "Encoding" control on the Host (for all subsystems); will be removing encoding control on the Shells property page
• Bugzilla: Severity Major, hi-priority

Vacation, Away

• DaveD travelling this week, but that shouldn't affect anything
• Monday May 28 - Pentecost Monday in Austria (Martin OOO), Memorial Day in US (public holiday, but DaveD probably working)

Action Items

• Last Meeting Action Items
• DaveD: Translation Testcases; Persistence Provider without IResource; Get started on ICU4J with bug 183631
• DaveM: Refresh Bugs
• Kushal: BIDI bugs and Encodings
• Martin: Testing Stats; Refresh improvements; Integrating Terminal with RSE
• Javier:
• Michael:

Next Meeting

• DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 29-May-2007 at 1500 UTC
• Monthly DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 6-Jun-2007 at 9am PST / 1600 UTC