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DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 16-Jan-2007
| Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
| Date & Time: | Tuesday Jan 16, 2007 at 1600 UTC |
| Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave Dykstal, Dave McKnight, Kushal Munir
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, Ted Williams
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
Recent Download Statistics
| Component | RC3 | RC4 | 1.0 | 1.0.1 | 2.0M4 | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Date | 30-Oct | 03-Nov | 12-Nov | 15-Dec | 4-Jan | |
| RSE-SDK | 113 | 146 | 469 | 363 | 22 | |
| rse-runtime-core | 14 | 105 | 64 | 4 | ||
| rseserver-windows | 24 | 63 | 190 | 54 | 5 | |
| rseserver-linux | 19 | 25 | 138 | 53 | 8 | |
| rse.core (Update Site) | 64 | 52 | 172 | 317 | 1.0 src is 156 | |
| Total | 177 | 212 | 746 | 744 | ||
| examples | 27 | 85 | 48 + 177 | 8 | ||
| remotecdt | 7 | 66 | 61 + 87 | 13 | per 1.0.1, remotecdt is no longer in SDK | |
| discovery | 13 | 68 | 39 + 138 | 7 | ||
| efs | 12 | 42 | 39 + 162 | 10 | ||
| terminal | - | - | 73 + 109 | 13 |
- For previous stats, see DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 19-Dec-2006 and DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 8-Nov-2006
- 1.0: 85 examples -- people do want to code against RSE APIs
- 68 discovery -- some interest
- update site gaining significance with 1.0.1, especially for examples, discovery, efs, terminal
Latest News
| Martin | 50% | EclipseCon tutorial; SVN eval; 2.0 planning; newsgroup-launching; terminal; builds; Platform communications | 50% |
| DaveD | 80% | UI/Non-UI; Got UserActions into IBM legal; Design for Persistence | 80% |
| DaveM | 60% | EclipseCon tutorial; fixed some bugs related to SimpleCommands; read-only flags; | 70% |
| Kushal | 0% | Encodings | 0% |
| Javier | 20% | Preparing the PluginFest | 20% |
| Ted | 0% | 0% | |
| Uwe | 0% | Filing bugs | 0% |
| Michael | 20% | Terminal record&play, performance; | 0% |
- Connection Testcases and Montavista Processes accepted by EMO
Upcoming Work
- Top priority this week is getting started with the "big rocks" in bugzilla, for RSE 2.0 Planning
- add unit tests for all new or modified API
- RSE 2.0 Planning
- 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
- UI/Non-UI separation (Condition of Satisfaction: be able to do a headless launch; try to reduce number of plugins? - DaveM be able to use service layer without profiles, persistence etc.; DaveM could envision service layer as part of ECF or similar; put subsystem.files together with subsystem.files)
- Be able to do ssh non-ui only? Would need an API for password / passphrase prompting in RSE core.
- SystemType improvements; retargetable actions/commands;
- read-only flags [java.io: cannot change a file to read-only;] want a capability API for services to report if they can set r-o or not? - Not yet, just report an error.
- timestamp, ro-flags: still TBD for ssh and ftp
- Streams for IHostShell, IFileService - upload already allows an InputStream; download will need new API; may be a problem for dstore since the agent "pushes" the file; ftp allows canceling the download
- Asynchronous API/callbacks; How is the client informed about job completion? Event? Callback? Progressmonitor? - Progressmonitor is created by the job typically, so we have no control over the progress [could use a SubProgressMonitor]? Use Java5 Concurrency classes?
- IHostShell changes for Terminal;
- 2. Make EFS work
- Kushal looking at it - problem is the strictness of resource locking / scheduling rules
- 3. Play well with the Platform
- retargetable actions/commands; capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
- 4. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
- 5. New Features
- Import/Export & User actions; Terminal-in-rse; Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
- 1. Make APIs usable for clients, harden the APIs, improve documentation
- Think about limiting the API: Make APIs internal along the way of updating documentation, and making Unit tests, we'll see some API we want "internal".
- Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
- Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
- Add Montavista shell processes subsystem
- Add DaveM's multishell? - Could help with Terminal integration;
- would need lots of cleanup; would raise questions why there are two shellviews;
- better wait for cleaner grouping concepts to come next year
- Fix N-builds (second workspace, use Ted's scripts)
- Orbit bundles to be added differently
- Unittests to run every night
- Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
- Copyright Year Changes
- For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch)
- Compiler Warnings
- Good progress, please continue. See the Committer Howto for settings
- 109 -> 113 -> 113 -> 3 connectorservice.dstore
- 176 -> 265 -> 161 -> 12 rse.core
- 474 -> 558 -> 558 -> 94 files.ui
- 637 -> 662 -> 662 -> 23 services
- 221 -> 250 -> 248 -> 27 subsystems.files.core
- 1622 -> 346 -> 293 -> 192 rse.ui
- Good progress, please continue. See the Committer Howto for settings
- Quality
- Docs are a high priority. Add ISV Javadoc where it is still missing or incorrect; review, and improve all docs
Communications
- General code cleanup -- to do right after M4:
- Get rid of unused icons, e.g. rse.ui/icons/full/obj16/system390_obj.gif, IBM_logo.gif
- Get rid of commented out source code
- Get rid of unused properties (chkpii)
- Change Requests
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Michael travelling next 2 weeks
- Kushal busy with IBM until Jan.19
- DaveD going to Chicago end of the month; Florida in February for a week
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- DaveD - Remove RSE Performance Logging; Refactoring UI/Non-UI; Persistence; Bugzilla bug for User Actions Contribution until Jan.31st; Bugs & Unit tests;
- DaveM - EclipseCon; Bugs & Unit tests; finish permission API; download Streams API;
- Kushal - Encodings; EFS; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
- Martin - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ssh; Commit Montavista contrib; Fix build; EclipseCon tutorial; Bugs & Unit Tests; Plan Item Specifications; Personal Interviews via Skype; Work on RSE 2.0 Planning; TM and RSE FAQ, improve Wiki and Website (how to contribute);
- Javier - Check r/o flags and timestamps for ftp; FTP passive mode; Bugs & Unit Tests,
- Ted -
- Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
- Uwe -
Next Meeting
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 30-Jan-2007 at 1700 UTC (2 weeks due to Symbian PluginFest; 1 hr later due to Orbit call)
- Open DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 7-Feb-2007 at 9am PST