Architecture Council/Meetings/December 12 2013

Meeting Title:	Architecture Council Monthly Meeting
Date & Time:	Thursday December 12, 2013 at 1600 UTC / 0800 SFO / 1100 Ottawa / 1600 London / 1700 Berlin attention DST change HTML | iCal
Dial-in:	Let's use the Foundation's Asterisk setup for this call: North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992 Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) 49-692-2224-6059 France (local call anywhere in France) 33-17-070-8535 Switzerland, Spain, Sweden, others - see Asterisk/Numbers Participant conference extension: 701 then enter pin: 51968 SIP clients can call 701@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 51968.

Attendees

All AC Members are invited.

• PMC Reps please confirm attendance or list your delegate below. Every PMC is required to name a primary and backup delegate, and to ensure that one delegate attends the meeting.

BIRT:	Wenfeng Li	Wenbin He
DTP:	Brian Payton	Linda Chan
Eclipse:	Mike Wilson	John Arthorne
Modeling:	Ed Merks	Cédric Brun Eike Stepper
Mylyn:	Steffen Pingel	Mik Kersten
RT:	Christian Campo	Tom Watson Doug Clarke Ian Bull
SOA:	Adrian Mos	Marc Dutoo
Technology:	Gunnar Wagenknecht	Wayne Beaton
Tools:	Doug Schaefer
WTP:	Chuck Bridgham	Neil Hauge

All Attendees

• Signed-Up: Wayne Beaton, Marcel Bruch, Ian Bull, Christian Campo, Linda Chan, Martin O, Denis Roy, Michael Scharf, Eike Stepper,
• Special Guest: Ian Skerret
• Regrets: Chuck Bridgham, Benjamin Cabé, Neil Hauge, Jonas Helming, Achim Lörke, Markus Knauer, Maximilian Kögel, Ed Merks, Andrew Overholt, Steffen Pingel, Doug Schaefer, Krum Tsvetkov, Gunnar Wagenknecht
• No-Show: Chris Aniszczyk, John Arthorne, Nick Boldt, Cédric Brun, Doug Clarke, Kenn Hussey, Mik Kersten, Mike Milinkovich, Kim Moir, Adrian Mos, Brian Payton, Tom Watson, David Williams

Agenda / Notes

• Feel free to edit, but not during the call!

Review of Last Meeting

• Architecture Council/Meetings/November 14 2013
• Still open items moved to #Action_Items

New Topics

• Welcome Marcel Bruch

Ian: New Logo

• Review design concepts of a new Eclipse logo [Ian Skerrett will participate]
  • Technical Feedback - Example: Platform team said "We also need it monochrome"
    • Martin, Ian B: Color in Designs C and D looks so different than current logo - might cause issues with "derived" logos eg Modeling, Tools: bug 370021, EclipseToolsLogos
    • Platform and EPP logos need to be in line; also RT, ...
  • Design A
    • Marcel: Favorite most - easy to print etc
    • Appreciate the new color, new font - looks very clean
  • Design B
    • Not sure how it addresses original goals - lot going on (radiance, ...)
  • Design C
    • Reminds of a logo expected when typing Eclipse.org wrong and hitting a "foreign" site ... too different than what we have today
    • Maybe try again the idea, but with different colors eg orange and purple
  • Design D
    • Font OK, but the Logo doesn't appeal .. too much going on, too busy
  • "If you had to Pick One?"
    • Responses: A,A,A (maybe slight variation in color eg colors from C) though B is almost as good

• Will there be a Web Redesign as part of the Logo Redesign ?
  • Yes, want to be done in time for Luna

Marcel: Logging at Eclipse

• See bug 358968: Different log providers in use at various projects ... commons.logging, log4j, slf4j, ...
  • Makes it hard for product builders to configure global logging
  • Makes it hard to properly wire up components
  • Looking for advice for new projects
  • See also Architecture_Council/Meetings/June_14_2012, AC ML Archive
  • NEXT STEPS: Marcel agrees to drive this, preparing material for a discussion in Jan or Feb

Denis: Code Signing

• Simrel participation requires code signing - request all Eclipse.org projects to sign their release builds ?
  • Would need to have operation super easy ... description,
  • Would need to have VALUE to projects / community very clear. Usually, we make projects responsible for their own communities... what is the

• The less clear the value, the more easy must be the operation
  • Suggestion by Marcel : Will ask releng, could be super easy for Maven
  • NEXT STEPS: Marcel reach out to Releng, "how to sign in Maven" Blog Post

General Topics

• Eclipse Infrastructure - git, Gerrit, Maven, Hudson, Bugzilla, ...

• Updates from the Board or the EMO

Action Items

• Cleaned up old action items, see Architecture Council/Meetings/February 10 2011 for old stuff
• (old) Tim write up an initial wiki page with information for people to standardize on the tracing API
• (old) Martin revise the AC Wiki to make it easier to find the New Member Process. More links on homepage. More usage of categories.
• (old) Martin bug 315210 Make the AC mailing list open / moderated

Next Meeting

• Architecture Council/Meetings/January 9 2014